A Little-Known Country, Part 14 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #65)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #65.

Our Scripture Verse for today is Isaiah 43:2 which reads, “When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from Helen Keller. She said, “Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 14):

A few days after your visit I was called to the door. Dr. Chambers, the assistant superintendent, was there. With him were two men, and he wanted to know if I recognized them. They were the men who had brought me out from the Psychopathic. After a short talk Dr. Chambers remarked, “Quite a change, isn’t there? It’s certainly a good ad for the hospital.” Of course, I was glad to hear him say that. I am indeed appreciative of all they have done for me here, but with this conclusion I cannot agree. If I have recovered, as I think I have, I cannot ascribe it to the methods of treatment, but rather to the curative forces of the religion which was largely responsible for thee disturbed condition.

At Westboro I was also violent, but there was no solitary confinement there. I was either in the tubs or else on a large sleeping porch with a score of other patients. I got a favorable impression of the doctor, but I was still suspicious of the nurse and of the chief attendant. I thought the food was doped. Here also I thought I was engaged in the same great struggle and here also it seemed that the Christ spirit was embodied in one of the patients, a young ex-sergeant whom I saw helping other patients who could not help themselves.

One of the things which excited me very much was the treatment given in the hydrotherapeutic baths. I looked upon it as a sort of punishment or persecution. I would go repeatedly to the door of the tub-room and ask to take the place of one of the men whom I regarded as among my friends. One day–I think it was October 27–when I went there with this request I was ordered to stop. When I did not immediately obey, three young attendants threw me down on the floor and began to beat me up, starting in the small of the back and working upwards. I was then carried back to bed. After staying there a little while, it came to me that I had done wrong in going back so easily, that I ought to have made them finish me up and that only thus could I release the spirit I thought imprisoned within myself. I went back then and was given a more severe beating. I can feel the effects of it now, even after five weeks. One of the older attendants told me later that I was given what was known as “the old bughouse knockout.” As I was being carried back–for I was not able to walk–I had the momentary consciousness of being once more myself. For a day or two I was not able to get up. Then on October 29, which happened to be my birthday, I seemed to wake up. On that day I was brought before the staff and my doctor remarked, as I was leaving, that I had done pretty well.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 15 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.

—PRAYER—

Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!

A Little-Known Country, Part 13 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #64

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #64.

Our Scripture Verse for today is Psalm 37:23-24 which reads, “The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way. Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the Lord upholdeth him with his hand.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from Franklin D. Roosevelt. He said, “When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 13):

Now my diagnosis is this: What is involved in my case, as well as in many others, is a sort of autohypnosis. I recall that in one of Professor Coe’s seminars at Union we discussed the various means of inducing the hypnotic condition. The principle brought out was that the key to it lay in the narrowing of attention to a single object or idea. One of the group went home and proceeded to fix his attention upon an electric light bulb. He succeeded, but he also injured his eyes. I take it that my attention was concentrated so completely upon one idea that hypnosis in some form was just what might have been expected. Of one thing I am sure. There was nothing wrong with the mental processes or with the reasoning faculties. Once my premises were granted, the conclusions were at least understandable. The fundamental fallacy was, of course, the assumption that an idea carried authority because of the way in which it came.

I have been especially puzzled regarding the origin and significance of the ideas of grandeur. How is it possible that I could ever fancy myself in such exalted roles as I did in the insane period? I see two possible explanations:

1 . When you give everything you have for a certain end and you then feel yourself called upon to give that thing up, it is equivalent to giving up your life; and your life is for you one with the world and with the universe. This principle is expressed mathematically if my memory does not betray me–by the equation 1 divided by 0 = infinity. It makes no difference how small or insignificant the unit may be, if it is divided by zero the quotient is infinity.

2. When you give up, or think you are giving up all that makes life worthwhile, you don’t care about anything else. Wealth, power, honor have no particular charm. You don’t care about them, and you know that you don’t. You therefore feel no enormity in the ideas of grandeur, much as you may later be horrified by them. They are felt rather as a burden which is wholly unwanted.

Concerning the particular ideas I shall not attempt any explanation. I would only insist that periods of crisis are fertile in suggestions, some of which may stand the test of experience and some may not.

I would stress the fact that most of these ideas were not in line with my previous experience and thinking. In fact they derived their authority in my thinking precisely from the fact that they were so absolutely different from anything I had thought of or heard of before, and because they came surging into my mind with such a rush.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 14 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.

—PRAYER—

Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!

A Little-Known Country, Part 12 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #63)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #63. Continue reading “A Little-Known Country, Part 12 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #63)”

A Little-Known Country, Part 11 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #62)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #62. Continue reading “A Little-Known Country, Part 11 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #62)”

A Little-Known Country, Part 8 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #59)

Our Scripture Verse for today is John 14:27 which reads, “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from Jay E. Adams. He said, “Evil is powerful, but good is more powerful. In fact, evil is so powerful that only good has the power to overcome evil. Darkness can be driven away only by light.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 8):

I believe that the examination before the staff came on that day, Tuesday, October 12,, though I am by no means sure. As I remember it, there were a number of women present, who sat, most of them, on the south side of the room. I think it was in the library rather than in the assembly-room on the third floor. I cannot remember the books, but I do not recall climbing any stairs, and I remember very distinctly that when the examination was over, I took it into my head to wander down the corridor, to the east and was promptly subdued by four or five attendants.

As to the examination itself, I can remember Dr. Campbell’s pleasant manner and his snapping eyes and the many questions he asked me. Most of the time my answers were very slow. I was sunk in my own thoughts and I tried to wait until the answers came of themselves. The questions seemed to center about my ideas of the “family of four.” Other questions had to do with my delusions of grandeur. I had myself something to say about having come to the end of the trail and having gone all the way around the circuit. I also expressed my indignation at being brought in before all those women in a bath-robe. I was also indignant at being brought to the hospital by force. I could not talk unless I were free. Dr. Campbell made some remarks about the need of avoiding force in committing patients. This raised my opinion of him but it did not mollify me sufficiently to permit me to shake hands with him when it came time to leave.

Then followed my first, though not my last experience in a cold-pack. I was much interested in the proceedings and saw two possible explanations. Dr. Campbell had just extracted from me the admission that I was a very exalted personage. Either they were going to exploit me in some horrible way, or else there was a more benevolent purpose, that of demonstrating to me the error of my ideas of grandeur. As nearly as I can remember, I really hoped that they might succeed in the latter purpose for those ideas were agonizing and I awaited the results of the demonstration with much interest. But all that happened was that I became unconscious. That for me was the usual effect of the cold-pack. Aside from these periods in the cold-pack I did little sleeping.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 8 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.

—PRAYER—

Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!

A Little-Known Country, Part 9 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #60)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #60.

Continue reading “A Little-Known Country, Part 9 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #60)”

Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country, Part 7 (Ordained Chaplains Out of the Depths #58)

Our Scripture Verse for today is Romans 8:28 which reads, “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from Stuart Scott. He said, “Hope is not defined by the absence of hardship. Rather, hope is found in God’s grace in the midst of hardship. Hope is found in his promise to give us a future.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 7):

During the day I was visited by a certain Dr. Klopp, who was said to be a distinguished physician from another state. He had heard that I had some important ideas about saving people. He was very much interested in this problem and he wondered if I would be willing to tell him about them. I rather liked Dr. Klopp’s looks, but I replied that I had rather not talk. He immediately went away. This raised my opinion of him greatly and made me think I had made a mistake. Several times afterward I inquired about Dr. Klopp.

The next night I was visited, not by angels, but by a lot of witches. I had the room next to the one I had occupied the night before. There was, as I remember it, nothing in it but a mattress on the floor. It seemed that the walls were of peculiar construction. There was, it seemed a double wall and I could hear a constant tap-tapping along the walls, all done according to some system. This was due, it seemed, to the detectives in the employ of the evil powers who were out to locate the exact place where I was* Then the room was filled with the odor of brim-stone. I was told that witches were around and from the ventilator shaft I picked up paper black cats and broom-sticks and poke bonnets. I was greatly exercised, and I stuffed myblanket into the ventilator shaft. I finally not only worked out a way of checking the invasion of the black cats, but I found some sort of process of regeneration which could be used to save other people. I had, it seemed, broken an opening in the wall which separated medicine and religion. I was told to feel on the back of my neck and I would find there a sign of my new mission. I thereupon examined and found a shuttle-like affair about three-fourths of an inch long.

In the morning Dr. O’Brien wanted to know why I had put that blanket in the ventilator shaft. I thought there was an evil gleam in his eye, as he spoke. Then I made some remark about the sign on my neck. The doctor laughed a peculiar laugh and said he’d better put some iodine on it. He started to do this but I broke away and ordered him to be careful. He seemed to be frightened, though I had no thought of touching him.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 8 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.

—PRAYER—

Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!